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[krystian]

 Family Stola Ludwin Salapa Kubiak Mencfeld

[marek]

Dear someone

I need information about MENCFELD Stanisław
Born in : 6.09.1898
Born to : PNIEWY

Arrow KUBIAK Marianna ( married to MENCFELD )
Born : 02.07.1901
Born to : KOLNO

at begin: What was the numbers names of their children?
my grandpa MENCFELD Franciszek have one brother and 4 sisters and lived in Gorzyń neer PNIEWY.

I found also "Recherche renseignements sur famille MENCFELD originaire de GOZYN ( pologne). Merci d'avance. B. STOLA" in http://www.genealogie.com/v4/forums/recherches-genealogiques-famille-stola-mencfeld-t84881.html and I supose that GOZYN means GORZYŃ.

So waiting for any contact

Best regards - Marek

[krystian]

Ok

so in that case you should contact bereve01

I will send a message to him now

[krystian]

So as to contact bereve01 , you should click http://www.swietapolska.com/forum/privmsg.php?mode=post&u=54 and write a private message

Also, bereve01 ( bernard ) use to speak french, maybe english or polish

if any help you need for translation, I can do it

[marek]

I post to Bernard too and can use english or polish and with french help me only ~www.ling.pl Hope there will be contact form Bernard soon.

[bereve01]

Famille STOLA MENCFELD

[krystian]

Marek a écrit

[krystian]

ENGLISH
Message for Marek : I think Marek than Bernard is not able to understand english, I think that you might have sent a message to Bernard in english but he has not understood it. So I will make the translation for you and Bernard.

FRANCAIS
Message pour Marek : Je disais : je pense Marek que Bernard ne comprend pas l'anglais, je pense que tu as certainement écris un message en anglais mais qu'ilne l'a pas compris. Donc, je vais servir de guide de traduction entre vous si tu le permets.

[krystian]

Dear someone / Bonjour à tous

I need information about MENCFELD Stanisław
J'aurais besoin d'informations sur Mencfeld Stanisław
Born in : 6.09.1898 Né le (6 septembre / ou 9 juillet : la date en langue anglaise peut etre inversée ) 1898
Born to : PNIEWY né à Pniewy

Arrow KUBIAK Marianna ( married to MENCFELD ) marié à KUBIAK Marianna
Born : 02.07.1901 née le (02.07 ou 07.02) 1901
Born to : KOLNO née à Kolno

at begin: What was the numbers names of their children?
pour commencer : combien d'enfants ont ils eut ?
my grandpa MENCFELD Franciszek have one brother and 4 sisters and lived in Gorzyń neer PNIEWY.
Mon grand père Mencfeld Franciszek avait un frère et 4 soeurs et a vécu près de Pniewy.

I found also "Recherche renseignements sur famille MENCFELD originaire de GOZYN ( pologne). Merci d'avance. B. STOLA" in http://www.genealogie.com/v4/forums/recherches-genealogiques-famille-stola-mencfeld-t84881.html and I supose that GOZYN means GORZYŃ.

J'ai aussi trouvé ceci "I found also "Recherche renseignements sur famille MENCFELD originaire de GOZYN ( pologne). Merci d'avance. B. STOLA" in http://www.genealogie.com/v4/forums/recherches-genealogiques-famille-stola-mencfeld-t84881.html"

et je suppose que Gozyn signifie Gorzyn

So waiting for any contact Smile
J'attend que vous me donniez un contact

Best regards - Marek
Sincères salutations - Marek
Message

[krystian]

FRENCH FRANCAIS

Cher Bernard, cher Marek, j'ai le plaisir de vous dire, à travers deux langues différentes, que vous êtes des cousins. Etonnant, je sais. Ne vous en faites pas, mois aussi cela m'est déjà arrivez de retrouver de lointain cousins.

Bernard,
tu sembles avoir deux ancêtres dans ta famille :

MENCFELD ( ou MENEFELD ) Stanislaw
né le : 6.09.1898 à : PNIEWWY

KUBIAK Marianna ( marriée MENCFELD )
née le 02.07.1901 à KOLNO

Maintenant, regarde les données que te présente Marek :

MENCFELD Stanislaw
né le 6.09.1898 à : PNIEWY

KUBIAK Marianna ( marriée à MENCFELD )
née le 02.07.1901 à KOLNO

Il semble donc que vous partagez ces deux ancêtres en commun.

Autre information : my grandpa MENCFELD Franciszek have one brother and 4 sisters and lived in Gorzyñ neer PNIEWY. son grand père est donc Mencfeld Franciszek , fils de Mencfeld Stanislaw.

Donc , Mencfeld Stanislaw est l' arrière grand père de Marek

En plus, son grand père ayant eut alors 1 frère et 4 soeurs, alors soit le frere, soit l 'une des quatres soeurs est ton ancêtre ou ascendants.

Donc, tu es le cousin de Marek !

Je traduis le reste en anglais

[krystian]

ENGLISH ANGLAIS

Dear Bernard and Marek. I am glad to tell each other that your belong to the same family, even if I should tell it throught two different langages. It could be amazing, but I think it's true.

Let's take a look to some family datas given by Bernard :

MENCFELD ( ou MENEFELD ) Stanislaw
born : 6.09.1898 to : PNIEWWY

KUBIAK Marianna ( spouse MENCFELD )
born : 02.07.1901 to KOLNO

Now, let's take a look to some family datas given by Marek :

MENCFELD Stanislaw
born : 6.09.1898 to : PNIEWY

KUBIAK Marianna ( spouse MENCFELD )
bor : 02.07.1901 to : KOLNO

It looks like you might share common ancestors

Another information : my grandpa MENCFELD Franciszek have one brother and 4 sisters and lived in Gorzyñ neer PNIEWY.

So your grand father is Mencfeld Franciszek
Mencfeld Franciszek is Mencfeld Stanislaw ' s son

Thus, Mencfeld Stanislaw is your great grandfather

Moreover, your grand father got 1 brother and 4 sisters.
Stanislaw Mencfeld and Kubiak Marianna are also Bernard's ancestors

So, maybe the brother, maybe one of the four sisters is Bernard's ancstor.

Thus, your grand father might have been the brother of a Bernard's ancestor.

So, each other, you belong to the same family. Bernard is your cousin.

[marek]

Welcome again

The family dates given by me are copy of Bernard prevoius post - I do not know my grandpa Franciszek Mencfeld ancestors. So it is only supose that Franciszek is a son of Stanislaw. I phoned today to my father and he will be speking with his oldest sister - douther of Franciszek. Maybe she will know what was the name of Franciszek father? My father said me also that we have some familly in France and in Australia but he didn't know details.

So I would like to ask Bernard if he knew any other detailed information about Stanislaw familly - As I understand Stanislaw doughter was Bernard grandma.

Krystian could You translete for Bernard? Thanks

[krystian]

Salutations

Les dates des familles données par Bernard sont l'exacte copie des messages précédents de Bernard.

Je ne connais pas les ancêtres de mon grand père Franciszek Mencfeld.

J'ai juste fait la supposition que Franciszek serait préalablement le fils de Stanislaw.

J'ai téléphoné aujourd'hui à mon père et il va parler à la plus agée de ses soeurs, fille de Franciszek. Peut être connait elle le nom du père de Franciszek.

Mon père m'a aussi dit que nous avons de la famille en France et en Australie, mais il ne peut pas donner de détails.

Donc, j'aimerais demander à Bernard si il connaît d'autres détails sur la famille de Stanislaw Mencfeld. D'après ce que je crois avoir compris, l'une des filles de Stanislaw serait probablement la grand mère de Bernard.

Krystian, peux tu effectuer la traduction pour Bernard ? Merci

Note du traducteur : c'est chose faite
I have done it.

[marek]

Hello Bernard

Now I think we are family Bernard. So, let me introduce all gathered information.

Our common ancestors are Wojciech Mecnfeld and Maria Łodyga – his wife. They lived in Rozbitek (commune Pniewy) and had 7 children – 2 sons and 5 daughters:
1. Stanisław (I suppose your grandpa) – lived in France with his wife Marianna Kubiak
2. Franciszek (my grandpa) – lived in Poland – Gorzyń with his wife Marianna Łapisz (my grandma) – she died when I was 9.
3. Franciszka – lived in Gorzyń with her husband Karol Ławniczak
4. Antonina – lived in Gorzyń, unmarried woman
5. Gertruda – lived in Gorzyń, unmarried woman, but had daughter Teresa brought up by Franciszka and Karol Ławniczak,
6. Pelagia – lived in Gorzyń with her husband Stefan Rys, they had son Zdzisław and daughter Franciszka
7. Agnieszka – lived with her husband Schifner in Germany. They had no children.

Franciszek was born in 1908.09.05 so he was younger brother of Stanisław (1989). Franciszek and Marianna Mencfeld had 6 children: Aleksandra, Maria, Teresa, Kazimierz, Henryk and Leon. Leon (the youngest of siblings, born in 1956.04.) is my father.

So I hope I helped You with Your family tree. If You need any other information just write to me marekmencfeld@o2.pl and I would like to ask You to send me information about children of Marianna and Stanisław – to put it into my family tree . And write me if You are my cousin? If You want write in French - I'll try to translate it myself.

Best regards
Far far cousin - Marek

[marek]

Here I put also link to google maps.
You can find on this map Pniewy, (east side of map)
Rozbitek is in the same please as Kwilcz (middle of screen)
and Gorzyń is under Miedzychód on crossroad (west side of map)

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=11&ll=52.546713,16.075745&spn=0.319431,0.725098&om=1